Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519
03/27/2007 01:30 PM House FINANCE
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HOUSE BILL NO. 136 "An Act relating to dental hygienists." Vice Chair Stoltze MOVED to ADOPT the work draft to HB 136, labeled 25-LS0364\K, Bullard, 3/26/07. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. Vice Chair Stoltze noted that this is the third reading of the bill. It is a continuing effort for access for health services for Alaska, especially underserved areas. He spoke of the need for allowing dental hygienists to perform more services. He referred to letters of support included in members' packets. 2:05:09 PM BEN MULLIGAN, STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE STOLTZE, explained the three provisions of the bill. It would allow hygienists to obtain a restorative function license endorsement. This would allow a dental hygienist to place "fillings" into a cavity prepared by a dentist. It would allow a dental hygienist to administer local anesthetic agents under general supervision of a dentist. The bill would also allow hygienists and dentists to enter into a collaborative agreement, which would allow the hygienists to perform certain duties unsupervised. Mr. Mulligan related the changes from the original version of the bill. On page 1, line 14, the jurisdiction was clarified. Page 3, line 2, references the statute where a dentist is licensed. Line 13 on page 3 is a clarification of terminology. Line 26 on page 3 adds a new subsection (d) in order to clarify the number of agreements between dentists and hygienists. 2:08:25 PM Representative Crawford inquired about the training necessary for hygienists to administer radiographs. He also wondered about follow-up procedures by a dentist after the hygienists have done their work. His concern was about having less-qualified health care for rural areas due to this bill. 2:10:53 PM Vice Chair Stoltze recalled a past issue with a dental therapist, not a dental hygienist. He explained that a dental assistant does not have a licensing board or training requirements. Representative Crawford thought that past opposition was to a dental therapist. He questioned the amount of training for each level. Vice Chair Stoltze thought there were two separate issues. Mr. Mulligan related the amount of training needed to become a dental hygienist. Representative Crawford asked if they can take x-rays. Mr. Mulligan deferred to others to answer. Representative Foster said Indian Health Service dentists used to serve the rural areas and were not licensed by the state. 2:15:38 PM Representative Nelson explained what federal dental health aids are. They are studying in New Zealand now and will return to serve rural communities in areas such as education and diet. She emphasized the void in dental providers in rural areas. She noted broad support for dental providers. Representative Gara asked for clarification of the various categories of aids and providers. He questioned the amount of x-ray training a hygienist has. Vice Chair Stoltze voiced a concern about public health issues. In his experience a dentist has not been present when x-rays were taken. 2:20:38 PM ROYANN ROYER, DENTAL HYGIENIST, CHUGIAK, shared her educational experience as a dental hygienist. She addressed the restorative functions performed by a dental hygienist, including training and personal experience. She described how a hygienist would work together with a dentist. She spoke about the collaborative agreement, which would have a great impact on rural dental services, as well as in nursing homes and other facilities. 2:25:30 PM Ms. Royer maintained that currently dental hygienists would take advantage of providing services on a limited basis. She addressed the local anesthesia provision. Forty states have incorporated this provision without any disciplinary action. She reported that the Alaska Board of Dental Examiners support the bill. The goal is to provide access to quality dental care. She spoke in favor of HB 136. 2:29:06 PM Representative Gara asked how many states have a collaborative agreement. Ms. Royer thought about 10 do. Representative Gara asked what training a hygienist gets for radiology and local anesthesia. Ms. Royer replied that there is a one semester course on radiology followed by four clinical training semesters. Local anesthesia is a separate licensing requirement with written and clinical exams. In response to a question from Representative Gara, Ms. Royer clarified how the instruction and testing is done. 2:31:49 PM DR. HIGGINS, FAIRBANKS, addressed the "access of care" issue. He noted that under the CHAP program, hygienists can already perform cleanings in rural areas. In Oregon the program has been a success. He questioned if the bill would change the access problem. He related that hygienists already spend their time cleaning teeth. He suggested expanding the number of dental auxiliaries. He thought the bill would be helpful, but does not address the real problem of lack of hygienists. Representative Crawford asked if the collaborative agreement would make health care cheaper. Dr. Higgins thought it would cost more because hygienists' duties would be expanded. In order to see more patients, the duties of the auxiliaries would have to be expanded. 2:40:40 PM Representative Crawford asked if the collaborative agreement would allow hygienists to travel to the villages without a dentist. Dr. Higgins replied that the CHAPS program should be doing that already. He questioned how many hygienists would be willing to go out alone. Vice Chair Stoltze asked for the definition of dental auxiliary. Dr. Higgins replied that they are uncertified assistants, trained in occlusions. They would need to be certified and pass the boards. Representative Gara asked if Dr. Higgins' concern is that the bill would not expand treatment, but not with the safety of service delivery. Dr. Higgins repeated that this bill trains the wrong workforce and should be training assistants rather than hygienists. 2:45:24 PM DR. GLENN MARTIN, PUBLIC HEALTH DENTIST, read a prepared statement. He described his job experience in traveling to 62 villages. He spoke in strong support for HB 136. He spoke in favor of collaborative agreements and described how that would result in better dental care in villages. 2:48:13 PM DR. DAVID LOGAN, ALASKA DENTAL SOCIETY, JUNEAU, noted that the Alaska Dental Society is in favor of CSHB 136 (FIN) except for in the collaborative agreement section. He referred to page 3, line 22, which currently reads "without the dentist's diagnosis and treatment plan unless otherwise specified in the collaborative agreement or in (a) of this section". He preferred it to say "prior to the dentist's diagnosis and with a treatment plan completed within a year" to insure continuation of care and a full range of treatment. Representative Gara asked if a hygienist can do a cleaning now without a dentist's diagnosis. Dr. Logan said they cannot. All treatment requires a dentist's diagnosis and a treatment plan. Representative Gara thought that was excessive. Dr. Logan agreed. He thought the hygienist should be able to work prior to a dentist's diagnosis and/or treatment plan. He emphasized the importance of the completion of the treatment plan. 2:52:12 PM MARY CERNEY, DENTAL HYGIENIST, testified in support of the legislation and provided information regarding the legislation. She observed that a restorative endorsement would be a separate endorsement. She detailed restorative care that would be given. The collaborative practice would provide care that would occur prior to the dentist's treatment plan, not in lieu of a plan. Every dental hygienist receives a Registered Dental Hygienist certificate, which compares to a RN degree. She maintained that the legislation would result in additional care and noted the backlog in some areas. She reported that hygienists had to have a dentist do an exam on each person before a cleaning could be given. The legislation would improve health care for the whole state, while providing safeguards. In response to a question by Representative Kelly, Ms. Cerney noted that she supports the committee substitute. She maintained that there is excellent training for both radiology and radiography. 3:00:27 PM DR. MIKE BOOTH, CHUGIAK, testified in support of the legislation. He spoke in support of promoting hygienists into rural areas. He maintained that local anesthesia is a drug, which can cause side effects. He wanted to know that hygienist were capable of dealing with conditions which could occur with the use of anesthesia. 3:03:32 PM JIM TOWLE, ALASKA DENTAL SOCIETY, informed the committee of his group's efforts to work on the bill. He noted that he had provided the committee with a list of amendments that they would like to see in the bill (copy on file.) He requested that safeguards be included with collaborative agreements. 3:05:20 PM RENA BOWER, ALASKA DENTAL HYGIENIST ASSOCIATION, testified in support of the legislation and maintained that dental hygienists are highly trained in radiology. Radiology equipment is maintained and monitored by the state. She hoped that the legislation would encourage students in rural areas to go into the field. She spoke in favor of the collaborative agreement and the ability for hygienists to administer anesthesia. 3:10:14 PM LINDA GOHL, AARP, CAPITAL CITY TASK FORCE, JUNEAU, testified in support of the legislation. She stressed that the legislation would increase access and pointed out that Alaska's dental care is the most expensive in the United States. Vice Chair Stoltze acknowledged the issue of anesthesia and stated that he would look into it. Representative Hawker referred to a letter from James R. Towle with a concern about how the local anesthesia would be administered. He requested more information about this. Co-Chair Meyer noted that that concern would be dealt with before the bill goes to the House Floor. He mentioned the new indeterminate fiscal note that accompanies the bill. 3:16:22 PM Representative Foster MOVED to REPORT CSHB 136 (FIN) out of committee with individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal note. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered. CSHB 136 (FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee with "no recommendation" and with a new indeterminate fiscal note by the Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development. 3:16:59 PM
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